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<B>YTP Tennis</B>, also known as <b>Youtube Poop Tennis</b>, <b>Video Tennis</b>, <b>Remix Tennis</b> or simply <b>Tennis</b>, is a artistic medium derivative of [[Photoshop Tennis]] and [[Youtube Poop]] involving the back-and-forth editing of video projects, often absurdist in nature.
<B>YTP Tennis</B>, also known as <b>Youtube Poop Tennis</b>, <b>Video Tennis</b>, <b>Remix Tennis</b> or simply <b>Tennis</b>, is a artistic medium derivative of [[Photoshop Tennis]] and [[Youtube Poop]] involving the back-and-forth editing of video projects, often absurdist in nature.


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If you know ''nothing at all'', see the [[Getting Started]] page to... get started!
If you know ''nothing at all'', see the [[Getting Started]] page to... get started!


=History=
Additional Recommended Reading:
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZvloYgu-s&t=110s</youtube>


The idea of remixing another person's YTP video can be supposedly traced back as early as April of 2007, when dvariano uploaded a video called "Elated Chronological Junctures" that was supposedly the first "repoop" video, and thus considered to be technically the first "Round 2" ever made. However the original video that he edited, made by a user named bahbugandhum(known now in that a number of the sources he used started completely unknown but would find niches in many places in the years to come), has yet to be found again. The first full match however was in the form of [[Conradslater vs Misselaineous10|Conradslater and Misslaineous10]] which started on August 11th, 2007 and ended on August 21st, with brought forth the full idea of someone doing a "repoop" of someone else's video, and having the original maker do the same back, creating a "Tennis" like pattern. From this match onward the concept greatly expanded to great - and at the beginning considerably unimaginable - lengths of development and refinement.
[https://yellowtealpurple.net/forums/threads/the-revised-observational-guide-to-video-tennis.1962/ The Revised Observational Guide to Video Tennis]


=Typical Game Format=
[https://yellowtealpurple.net/forums/threads/the-revised-recreational-guide-to-video-tennis.1963/ The Revised Recreational Guide to Video Tennis]


The rules of YTP Tennis are often customized to suit each pooper's needs. However, one of the original, and well known, formats is as follows:
=History=
==Origins==
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* One player (P1) asks another, or in some cases the community as a whole, whether or not they would like to participate in a game. Here the number of videos to be made (or rounds, typically 4 or 6) is defined, as well as the length of each, and any other additional conditions. If an open challenge is made, a video is sometimes supplied. This is "Round 1", the serve of the tennis match.
The idea of remixing another person's video can be supposedly traced back as early as April of 2007, when dvariano uploaded a video called "Elated Chronological Junctures" that was supposedly the first "[[repoop]]" video, and thus considered to be technically the first "Round 2" ever made. However the original video that he edited, made by a user named bahbugandhum, has yet to be found again. Alongside this, Photoshop Tennis already existed, and original YouChew admin conradslater was a fan and an avid participant of it; there exists evidence of him engaging the community with it as early as June of 2007. As someone who took YTP seriously enough to consider it genuine art at that time, the equation to put together the tennis format with video, especially YTP, seemed to be a natural one for him to make.
* Another player (P2) accepts the challenge, and edits over P1's first video to make "Round 2". In addition to editing the video supplied, P2 can add new sources to mix in with it if they so choose.
* P1 follows through by remixing the new video to make "Round 3", adding sources of their own if they so choose. The game continues in a back and forth fashion like this until the round limit is met.
*It is always absolutely essential that the previous round always be used in some way to make each subsequent round, otherwise it is not considered true tennis.


For additional conditions to a match, they are usually outlined in these such ways:
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*specific sources that are to be used for a match, like "video games only"(Furnessly vs. MycroProcessor(2008-2009)), "Final Fantasy only"(Moogle vs. Mazz0Murder(2009)) or having each round correspond to a sequential letter of the alphabet with added sources and time limit (CorruptionSound's "ABC" Tennis Multi-Way (2011-2014))
*the amount of sources that can be added (in the early years, it was commonly suggested that added sources be capped at a maximum of three per round; in Kurkop vs. Metzgorrre(2010), the condition was that No sources were to be added)
*specific software to be used, such as WMM (dew vs. Gamebop(2012-2014), CorruptionSound vs. Massivezephyr14 vs. Gamebop vs. BSP66c vs. Metroid998(2010-2012))
*editing restrictions, such as "no visual distortion/ear rape"(NS2 vs. ChrisGendo(2009))
* a nonstandard match type, such as Wildcard (RabbitSnore vs. Crash2991(2007)), Multiplied Time(quax94 vs. MycroProcessor(2009)) or Panic Tennis (dew vs. Gamebop vs. LeSuperKoffee(2012))


Often, 6 rounds in total is the conventional amount of rounds made that make a normal match considered "complete". However, in certain circumstances, especially if the players enjoy working off of each other, the number of rounds can often get extended to 8 or more. TheChutley and vvaluigi began a match together with the intent of playing 100 rounds in total beginning in 2008, and have gotten as far as Round 75 in the present day, with a five year window of inactivity between 2011 and 2016.
The first full match, also the first time that tennis was ever applied to the medium of video entirely on the internet, was in the form of [[Conradslater vs Misselaineous10|Conradslater and Misslaineous10]], starting on August 11th, 2007 and ended on August 21st. In it's taking place, this match forth the full idea of someone doing a remix of someone else's video, and having the original maker do the same back, creating a "Tennis" like pattern. From this match onward the concept greatly expanded to great -  and at the beginning considerably unimaginable - lengths of development and refinement.


In some cases, especially in tennis's early years, matches could be declared "complete" at an odd number, as well as one under the conventional amount of 6. This usually came about as a mutual agreement between the players involved that the match had reached a natural end, if not exactly a conventional one. Matches such as Crash2991 vs. strong414bad(2008) and AshcrementVII vs. UncleChuckTH(2012) were called complete at 5 rounds, and in another, much rarer instance, RabbitSnore vs. NS2(2009) was given "honorary completion" after only 3 rounds. Other matches like RabbitSnore vs. conradslater(2007) and Kurkop vs. LeSuperKoffee(2010) were declared complete at the unusual amount of 9 rounds. These circumstances usually only happen when the last even round of a match is either unable or unwilling to be made by the volleying side, but there is not a desire to consider the match "failed" for sentimental reasons, usually due to the players being close as friends or the quality of the match as it stands being considered too great for failure.
==The Intitial "Freewheeling" Era (2007-2008)==


Additionally, matches can sometimes stall at an odd number with an even finishing round never being made and the match being considered neither completed nor failed due to a loss of communication. These include matches such as BMATF vs. Markie(2007, the second ever tennis match), NS2 vs. Markie(2012), dew vs. robochao1(2016) and SushieBoy vs. guysafari(2010), all matches that never received a Round 6.
At first, there was hardly any tennis community in a well defined sense to speak of; much of the tennis matches that did happen following the first one was done so in a way that would be seen by modern standards as very disorganized, as many merely skirted around the concept in curiosity without ever really committing fully to the potential that tennis in a YTP/Video context could offer. That being said, there were a handful of notable early names that became early fixtures in the world of tennis: BMATF played the second ever tennis match with Markie, and UncleChuckTH played the third ever tennis match with conradslater (the latter's second match), and both UncleChuckTH and BMATF would continue to exist in the world of tennis until the early 2010s. TangerineImpz vs. SeductiveBaz was played entirely start to finish on August 21, 2007, the day that the final round of the first tennis match was uploaded, and this was for a very long time the fastest tennis match ever played; SeductiveBaz would also be an early fixture and continued to tennis in some capacity until a full 12 years later. Second only to conradslater's early activity in tennis was that of MrDrunkenFox, who played multiple early games including with Tentor, plex14, PapaGonzales and Furnessly. This latter player, along with other such players such as InsinerateHymn, JazzDanceForChildren, TyrannosaurusReich, MelvanaInChains, dvariano, {{Luioigi}}, ADHDYoshi, GameCubeHero, Intenseowl, MVJ5197, 3inchhorse, ELPSteel, SushieBoy, Vorhias, sonicnerd23, and SesakaGenX would also serve to play their own individual roles in defining the nature of tennis at its earliest onsets. Tennis is considered to have reached one of its first peaks in its intersection with "Robotnik YTP" at the time - videos that focused entirely on remixing episodes of ''[[The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog]]'' and its main antagonist -  in particular the matches of UncleChuckTH vs. Wikiwow(2007), the first ever match to reach ten rounds, Stegblob vs. TyrannosaurusReich (2007), and especially [[BMATF vs. UncleChuckTH vs. Wikiwow]](2007). All of these would build a foundation for a strand of tennis that would eventually continue long separate from the main tennis community, which, although small, would localize and organize itself largely on the YouChew forums.


Ultimately though, a match is traditionally considered "failed" when one or both players have lost the desire to continue a match and the agreed number of rounds is not reached, and every player in tennis comes to play at least one, and often at least a few failed matches throughout their tennis career. There is however no definitive time limit to how long a tennis match must take. AshcrementVII vs. Metroid998 notably took an entire 5 years to complete, lasting from 2011's Round 1 to 2016's Round 6. dew vs. verity larsen(TheRazorEdge) additionally took 4 years to complete, lasting from 2012 to 2016. Whether or not a match fails depends entirely on the players involved and their willingness to continue the match.
Aside from all of these other players however, one of the most important to come out of these first months was RabbitSnore, who played his first tennis match with real-life friend Thereisnospoon303, or TINS, in October 2007. Rabbit immediately came to develop a passionate and vested interest in tennis - the places that it could go and the ways in which it could develop - from the very offset of his entrance into it, and he sought to give the medium the attention and the analysis that it deserved through his initial position on the "Vanilla" YouChew forums as chief editor of the forum's "newsroom" - from October/November 2007 onward, Rabbit began his regular "Tennis Review" series of articles, with InsinerateHymn vs. PukingCyberman(2007), GameCubeHero vs. Intenseowl(2007) and Furnessly vs. MrDrunkenFox(2007) the first three matches he covered in this matter. He would contribute a "retrospective review" of conradslater vs. Misselaineous10 shortly thereafter, and it is from this point onward, largely through his insistence, that the importance and the nature of the first ever tennis match began to become recognized in the way it now is today.  


Etiquette is generally recommended when it comes to starting matches with people - like the game itself, communication is key. In the early days of tennis a direct challenge to a specific player would sometimes be cast without any prior planning to ultimately spotty success, and it was generally considered not the most popular way to start matches with people. Throughout Tennis's history, it has seen some players such as HerpyWhooves and autumnithink who were notorious for their habit of uploading serves to whoever they wanted as an opponant with no prior (or subsequent) communication whatsoever. While most of these serves were not volleyed, they on occasion were and did in fact blossom into full matches, such as autumnithink vs. CorruptionSound(2011) and HerpyWhooves vs. Gamebop(2011). It is still overall highly discouraged that one start matches with anyone this way however.
His prominence in this activity and the quality of his articles for the time gained him the trust and admiration of Conrad himself, and he was able to use this sway to convince him to allow the tennis section to begin hosting its first [[tennis tournament]]s, with Gallers being the initial organizer of the first few to take place. After Rabbit had accumulated a respectable roster of completed matches including with YamiMario, SushieBoy, Miss10, and PapaGonzales, Rabbit took on Conrad himself in the now legendary match of [[RabbitSnore vs. conradslater]](2007). At a time when tennis usually came in the language of either "comedic" or of the extreme varieties conceived in the first match, this match was seen as a completely different third approach - of tennis as very much an art and of a thoughtful exchange in and of itself, even if this exchange was liable to get wild in other ways.


==Doubles Tennis==
In January 2008, Rabbit had gained enough of an influence over tennis - having played further matches with MrDrunkenFox, pimpsahoy, strong414bad, and UncleChuckTH, that he was able to create some of the earliest foundational texts on how tennis was meant to be played and approached: the Observational and Recreational Guides to tennis. On January 28, Rabbit also created the first of the "Tennis Café" threads, a general chat for the tennis section that allowed for the community to begin to consolidate together and organize themselves properly for the first time. Around this time, newer members began to enter into the community or gain a greater degree of visibility in the section, including {{Crash2991}}, {{strong414bad}}, {{GameBop}}, and {{Nuthead}}. For much of the original Cafe thread's incarnation, only Rabbit and Crash would be doing the majority of the regular posting, and between them talked about tennis matches often, with RabbitSnore vs. conradslater, conradslater vs. Miss10 and [[MilkR0und vs. Y2Zero]](2007) receiving repeated reference and discussion as part of an early canon of foundational matches for the community. Somewhere in this period due to his enthusiasm and prolific activity, RabbitSnore even began being regarded by a few as "The King of Tennis" - a title he never was comfortable with.
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUJu13SOg8c</youtube>


While this was first attempted in March 2008 between RabbitSnore, Misselaineous10, Furnessly and TheHappyFungus, Rakninja successfully pulled a special twist in this category on November 17th, 2008, bringing the variant idea into a tournament setting, which ultimately brought significant attention to it and has since made it a standard. The standard method of play is:
Conrad's last match played was with TheDarkRises in January 2008. He began to make a lot of strange, aggressive and elitist decisions in how he shaped and restructured the forum community, including among other things enforcing his "War on [[AIDS]]"(a crusade against what he termed to be low effort YTPs based on source and editor preference) upon the community in addition to a requirement for forum users to play at least one tennis match in order to be eligible to be "featured" on the site. The decline of his reign on the "Vanilla" forums coincided with the tennis community, in the absence of most everyone else, continuing to grow and consolidate around a growing collection of regular tennis players and posters in the Cafe. {{RAKninja}}, {{theHappyFungus}}, and {{NS2}} became such members at this time, and all engaged in tennis matches both with each other and other exterior players, with Temeku/MTB710, GreatBritishTurd and TheDarkRises all beginning to make regular tennis appearances. The "Vanilla" forums officially shut down at the end of March 2008, as conradslater relinquished control over to {{RabbitSnore}} and TINS, who purchased new forum software and a new server to give the community a fresh, laid-back start - free from the drama and the hardship of the site's original incarnation. Rabbit promptly created a new version of the Tennis Cafe, and it was shortly in the wake of this site's beginning that the official rules of tennis were finally laid down for the first time, stipulating the 6-round standard with which all tennis would orient itself around from this point onward.


A + B vs. C + D
===RabbitSnore, as Admin and the "First" "Tennis Fuck"===


A + B work collaboratively on odd rounds, while C + D do so on the even rounds.
The spring of 2008 was a prolific time for tennis under Rabbit and TINS' administration. RabbitSnore himself however began to considerably slow in activity around this point, with some of his matches played in this era being with the likes of BMATF, theHappyFungus, GameCubeHero, Christoph and Nuthead. He was now an administrator and "second in command" of a forum that was ever so steadily growing in activity and users of all personality types - often the overwhelm of the rest of the site would get to him, resulting in him often retreating to his second Tennis Cafe thread to get away from it all. Multiple regulars of the Café would over time make this thread their only home on the entire site, and the tennis section the only active place that they would visit during their periods of activity.


This can be done in a 4 Round League format (as first done in the 2009 Tennis Season), a standard 6 Round format, or any other even number beyond that, depending on the players' determination to do so.
Rabbit took the initiative to create a separate staff for this subforum in order to take the weight off of him managing the entire section on his own, and thus - the [[tennis staff]] was first formed in May 2008. A matter of months later, RAKninja, the oldest and last chosen of the first generation of staff, would christen them with the informal moniker of the Tennis Fucks, a name that has stuck into the present on occasion. Many of the matches played in this period on the YouChew forums occurred between the members who would be chosen for this staff, including theHappyFungus vs. RabbitSnore, theHappyFungus vs. RAKninja, theHappyFungus vs. Nuthead, [[Crash2991 vs. NS2]], [[Crash2991 vs. RAKninja]], Crash2991 vs. strong414bad, RabbitSnore vs. Nuthead, theHappyFungus vs. NS2, and Nuthead vs. NS2. Out of these, the seeds that made up the foundation of much of the initial in-jokes in the community were first created, and would continue to do so with RAKninja supplying the lions share of enduring moments in tennis.


While there were originally six members chosen, making for a total of seven when counting Rabbit, the lineup would continue in a state of flux from its inception onward with the promotion and departure of various members, but generally settled around an early core of {{RAKninja}}, {{Crash2991}} and {{strong414bad}} as those the most faithful to the tennis section in this initial phase. [to be continued]


In RAKninja's Tournament adaption, the method of play has some changes:
==The first matches==


A + B vs. C + D
The following is a list of the first 50 matches ever played (or alternatively, every match from August to the start of November 2007). The timestamps are based on their time started/completed on the [[YouChew]] forums. As there was yet to be a concept of a "failed" match, ever match is here is listed as complete, even if some only go to 2-3 rounds.


* Player A makes a serve, Player C returns it.
Matches are sorted by date ''started'', with the precise order going by when matches started sometimes by the hour and minute the first round of a match was posted if multiple matches start on the same day. Date format is MM-DD-YYYY.
* Player B volleys that, Player D volleys.
* Player A and B then collaborate to make their last round, then Player's C and D collaborate to finish the match.


In the Doubles Cup I, The match was scored by a Review Crew member, a Tennis Staff member, and a popular vote as the third "judge". In cases where a Review Crew or Tennis staff were involved in a match, the match was judged by two members of the other staff,(except in the case of RC vs TS) so if someone were in a match against anyone but a RC member, he/she would be judged by two RCs rather than a RC and TS.
{| class="wikitable sortable"  
|-
!
! Match
! Start Date
! End Date
! Verification
|-
| 1
| [[conradslater vs. Miss10]]
| 08-11-2007
| 08-21-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 2
| [[BMATF vs. Markie]]
| 08-19-2007
| 09-03-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 3
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgVeim2Qp0 UncleChuckTH vs. conradslater]
| 08-19-2007
| 08-29-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 4
| TangerineImpz vs. SeductiveBaz
| 08-21-2007
| 08-21-2007
| YouChew
|-
|5
| ZippZapp vs. ADHDYoshi
| 08-30-2007
| 09-02-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 6
| [[KingCornholio vs. Ophios]]
| 08-30-2007
| 09-14-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 7
| MrDrunkenFox vs. Tentor
| 08-31-2007
| 09-02-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 8
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSONj5IwwRw UncleChuckTH vs. Yenehckcid]
| 09-01-2007
| 10-07-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 9
| glitchboyadvance vs. conradslater
| 09-01-2007
| 10-19-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 10
| seconteen13 vs. 1upclock
| 09-01-2007
| 09-02-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 11
| Plex vs. MrDrunkenFox
| 09-02-2007
| 09-07-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 12
| AimManEXE vs. Arufonzu
| 09-10-2007
| 09-23-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 13
| Wikiwow vs. MetalAcid5
| 09-14-2007
| 09-15-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 14
| JazzDanceForChildren vs. TyrannosaurusReich
| 09-22-2007
| 09-24-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 15
| PapaGonzales vs. MrDrunkenFox
| 09-23-2007
| 09-28-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 16
| conradslater vs. Gnomebob
| 09-27-2007
| 10-04-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 17
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fOhGrzFwiw&pp=0gcJCU8JAYcqIYzv Idiotska vs. SoldierElerium]
| 09-28-2007
| 10-04-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 18
| BMATF vs. Dhgriff9/UberNooberPooper
| 09-29-2007
| 10-05-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 19
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-NOY6MKD4  hom906sar vs. strong414bad]
| 09-30-2007
| 10-08-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 20
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otQNk7rua_4 Bobomb99 vs. {{Miss10}}]
| 10-03-2007
| 11-07-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 21
| Luioigi vs. scimath12
| 10-03-2007
| 10-10-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 22
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P2gOPcHvxc SeductiveBaz vs. UncleChuckTH]
| 10-05-2007
| 10-17-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 23
| azsxdc vs. Y2Zero
| 10-06-2007
| 10-12-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 24
| [[Chain Poop]]
| 10-06-2007
| 12-29-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 25
| KittyGabyIMEANGOAT vs. MelvanaInChains
| 10-13-2007
| 10-14-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 26
| TantricNferno vs. {{Terrorist}}
| 10-17-2007
| 10-19-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 27
| MelvanaInChains vs. TyrannosaurusReich
| 10-17-2007
| 10-21-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 28
| MetalAcid5 vs. Tentor
| 10-21-2007
| 10-25-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 29
| ADHDYoshi vs. Ikwaylx
| 10-23-2007
| 10-27-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 30
| [[Wikiwow vs. UncleChuckTH]]
| 10-23-2007
| 11-18-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 31
| Nimrodpowerz vs. MelvanaInChains
| 10-24-2007
| 10-24-2007
| [https://ftlfw.net/archives/websites/youchew.net/archive/forum/19-tennis-completed/83520-poop-tennis-nimrodpowerz-vs-melvanainchains/1 YouChew]
|-
| 32
| [[RabbitSnore vs. Thereisnospoon303]]
| 10-24-2007
| 10-30-2007
| YouChew
|-
|33
| cloggedone vs. hom906sar
| 10-24-2007
| 10-28-2007
| YouChew
|-
|34
| SushieBoy vs. kiz038
| 10-24-2007
| 10-27-2007
| YouChew
|-
|35
| SpamNapkin vs. {{BMATF}}
| 10-24-2007
| 10-26-2007
| YouChew
|-
|36
| [[Furnessly vs. MrDrunkenFox]]
| 10-26-2007
| 11-03-2007
| YouChew
|-
|37
| Wizkid837 vs. UberPooper12
| 10-27-2007
| 11-01-2007
| YouChew
|-
|38
| GameCubeHero vs. Intenseowl
| 10-27-2007
| 10-31-2007
| YouChew
|-
|39
| heartlessmushroom vs. Razor64a
| 10-27-2007
| 10-28-2007
| YouChew
|-
|40
| MVJ52197 vs. 3inchhorse
| 10-28-2007
| 11-04-2007
| YouChew
|-
|41
| MesuginaChicken vs. SeductiveBaz vs. hom906sar
| 10-28-2007
| 11-05-2007
| [https://ftlfw.net/archives/websites/youchew.net/archive/forum/19-tennis-completed/83799-mahsuginachicken-vs-seductivebaz-vs-hom906sar/1 YouChew]
|-
|42
| BMATF vs. ELPSteel
| 10-28-2007
| 11-05-2007
| YouChew
|-
|43
| SobmicSSBB vs. plex14
| 10-29-2007
| 11-07-2007
| YouChew
|-
|44
| InsinerateHymn vs. PukingCyberman
| 10-29-2007
| 11-01-2007
| YouChew
|-
|45
| RabbitSnore vs. SushieBoy
| 10-30-2007
| 11-05-2007
| YouChew
|-
|46
| Cortes vs. MelvanaInChains
| 10-30-2007
| 11-06-2007
| YouChew
|-
|47
| DrKelexo vs. Vorhias
| 10-31-2007
| 11-19-2007
| YouChew
|-
|48
| sonicnerd23 vs. Hoss1993/HossTehMaster
| 10-31-2007
| 11-03-2007
| YouChew
|-
| 49
| {{BMATF}} vs. conradslater
| 10-31-2007
| 11-5-2007
| [https://ftlfw.net/archives/websites/youchew.net/archive/forum/19-tennis-completed/83459-tennis-bmatf-vs-conrad-slater-please-vote/1 YouChew]
|-
|50
| EdE0tt vs. MAXXNinja
| 11-01-2007
| 11-06-2007
| YouChew
|}


In the Doubles Cup II though, since Review Crew had long since fused with the News Staff which had in time become the Writing Staff (who now were largely uninvolved with tennis altogether), vote was divided between a Judge and Public Vote, in which anyone could sign up as a Judge. A possible 2 of 3 points had to be awarded to a playing team in order to achieve a win, with one point decided by popular vote (which used MycroProcessor's "percentage" voting system from the Three-Way Tournament) and the second decided by Judge vote. If both teams each received one of these points, the third was decided by a panel of three Cafe Staff members using Olympic voting.  
==Further Developments==
The very first rematch in tennis (players going at it more than once) took place between MelvanaInChains and nimrodpowerz, with their second match going from November 17th to the 24th, 2007 - ending exactly a month after their first match concluded. <ref>https://ftlfw.net/archives/websites/youchew.net/archive/forum/19-tennis-completed/85033-melvanainchains-vs-nimrodpowerz-again/1</ref>


In the Doubles Cup III, matches were played for the first time in a 4 Round all-collaboration league format, while in the Doubles Cup IV it returned to the standard tournament adaption.
=Typical Game Format + Etiquette=
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Lf7zolg-U</youtube><br>
The rules of YTP Tennis are often customized to suit each pooper's needs. However, one of the original, and well known, formats is as follows:


==Triples Tennis==
* One player (P1) asks another, or in some cases the community as a whole, whether or not they would like to participate in a game. Here the number of videos to be made (or rounds, typically 4 or 6) is defined, as well as the length of each, and any other additional conditions. If an open challenge is made, a video is sometimes supplied. This is "Round 1", the serve of the tennis match.
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRaZ2ZENCiM</youtube>
* Another player (P2) accepts the challenge, and edits over P1's first video to make "Round 2". In addition to editing the video supplied, P2 can add new sources to mix in with it if they so choose.
* P1 follows through by remixing the new video to make "Round 3", adding sources of their own if they so choose. The game continues in a back and forth fashion like this until the round limit is met.
*It is always absolutely essential that the previous round always be used in some way to make each subsequent round, otherwise it is not considered true tennis.


In June 2011, ChrisGendo further expanded upon RAKninja's original Doubles Cup idea and introduced the idea of Triples Tennis, which worked the same as Doubles Tennis except now with the addition of one more person on each side. The playout on a competitive field would be:
For additional conditions to a match, they are usually outlined in these such ways:


A + B + C vs. D + E + F
- specific sources that are to be used for a match, like "video games only" (Furnessly vs. {{MycroProcessor}} (2008-2009)), "Final Fantasy only"({{Moogle}} vs. Mazz0Murder(2009)) or having each round correspond to a sequential letter of the alphabet with added sources and time limit (CorruptionSound's "ABC" Tennis Multi-Way (2011-2014))


* A Makes Round 1
- the amount of sources that can be added (in the early years, it was commonly suggested that added sources be capped at a maximum of three per round; in Kurkop vs. Metzgorrre(2010), the condition was that No sources were to be added)
* D Makes Round 2
* B Makes Round 3
* E Makes Round 4
* C Makes Round 5
* F Makes Round 6
* ABC Make Round 7 collaboratively
* DEF Make Round 8 collaboratively


Matches of this type however did not see any footing until February 2013, and so far only 7 have ever been played, with 6 of those actually completing. This variant has not yet been attempted outside of a tournament setting.
- specific software to be used, such as WMM ([[Dani vs. GameBop (WMM rematch)|dani_phantump vs. GameBop]](2012-2014), [[Vanilla WMM 5-Way|CorruptionSound vs. Massivezephyr14 vs. GameBop vs. BSP66c vs. Metroid998]](2010-2012))


==Multi-Ways==
- editing restrictions, such as "no visual distortion/ear rape"({{NS2}} vs. {{ChrisGendo}}(2009))


Gamebop is credited to being the first to start a match in which more than two people were volleying each other in October 2007, billed as a "Multi-Person Poop Tennis" and featuring 6 people. The players were himself, BMATF, KingCornholio, MVJ52197, plex14 and DrHyliaPimpVDCWII, but the match never progressed beyond a couple of rounds. A revival effort of this match using the original serve and originally featuring himself, dew, TehShadezify, plasticfishtank, JowlHog4 and MycroProcessor has been in process since 2013, and has managed to progress to Round 4 before becoming stagnant.
- a nonstandard match type, such as [[Wildcard]] ([[RabbitSnore vs. Crash2991]](2008)), [[Multiplied Time]] ([[quax94 vs. MycroProcessor]](2009)) or [[Panic Tennis]] ({{dew}} vs. {{Gamebop}} vs. LeSuperKoffee(2012))


The playout of a multi-way match works the same way as a standard two person match except with more people, with the round number adjusted to the amount of people playing(# of players x 3). Example:
=Exceptions + Special Cases=
Often, 6 rounds in total is the conventional amount of rounds made that make a normal match considered "complete". However, in certain circumstances, especially if the players enjoy working off of each other, the number of rounds can often get extended to 8 or more. [[The 100 Round Tennis|{{TheChutley}} and vvaluigi began a match together]] with the intent of playing 100 rounds in total beginning in 2008, and have gotten as far as Round 75 in the present day, with a five year window of inactivity between 2011 and 2016. TheChutley is also known for often playing matches with various opponents that get extended to 8 rounds, having done so in her matches with {{GameBop}}, [[TheChutley vs. quax94|quax94]], [[TheChutley vs. ChrisGendo|ChrisGendo]], [[AbsoluteBillion vs. TheChutley|AbsoluteBillion]], JakeSteel, Rarenut59 and SesakaGenX, to name some. Her first match with Imaperson additionally extended all the way to 10 rounds, at a time when the only known instance of this otherwise was Wikiwow vs. UncleChuckTH(2007), the first 1v1 match to go this far.


A vs. B vs. C so 3 players x 3 rounds to each = 9 rounds total.
In some cases, especially in tennis's early years, matches could be declared "complete" at an odd number, as well as one under the conventional amount of 6. This usually came about as a mutual agreement between the players involved that the match had reached a natural end, if not exactly a conventional one. Matches such as Crash2991 vs. strong414bad(2008) and [[AshcrementVII vs. UncleChuckTH]](2012) were called complete at 5 rounds, and in another, much rarer instance, RabbitSnore vs. {{NS2}} (2008-2009) was given "honorary completion" after only 3 rounds. Other matches like [[RabbitSnore vs. conradslater]] (2007) and {{Kurkop}} vs. LeSuperKoffee (2010) were declared complete at the unusual amount of 9 rounds. These circumstances usually only happen when the last even round of a match is either unable or unwilling to be made by the volleying side, but there is not a desire to consider the match "failed" for sentimental reasons, usually due to the players being close as friends or the quality of the match as it stands being considered too great for failure.


* A serves, and also makes rounds 4 and 7
Additionally, matches can sometimes stall at an odd number with an even finishing round never being made and the match being considered neither completed nor failed due to a loss of communication. These include matches such as [[BMATF vs. Markie]](2007, the second ever tennis match), {{NS2}} vs. Markie(2012), {{dani_phantump}} vs. robochao1(2015-2016) and SushieBoy vs. guysafari(2010), all matches that never received a Round 6.
* B makes Round 2, 5, and 8
* C makes Round 3, 6, and finishes the match with Round 9.


Ultimately though, a match is traditionally considered "failed" when one or both players have lost the desire to continue a match and the agreed number of rounds is not reached, and every player in tennis comes to play at least one, and often at least a few failed matches throughout their tennis career. There is however no definitive time limit to how long a tennis match must take. {{Metroid998}} vs. {{AshcrementVII}} notably took an entire 5 years to complete, lasting from 2011's Round 1 to 2016's Round 6. {{dani_phantump}} vs. {{verity larsen}} additionally took 4 years to complete, lasting from 2012 to 2016. Whether or not a match fails depends entirely on the players involved and their willingness to continue the match.


Three way matches have been the most common(helped by the Three-Way Tournament that occurred in 2010) as well as the longest running, but multi-ways of many different amounts have occurred over YTP Tennis history. The Multi-Way Tournament of 2013-2014 had multi-ways of 6 people all the way through standard matches taking place, and on several occasions throughout 2011-2013 have occurred even 10 ways and 20 ways, few of which have seen completion.
Etiquette is generally recommended when it comes to starting matches with people - like the game itself, communication is key. In the early days of tennis a direct challenge to a specific player would sometimes be cast without any prior planning to ultimately spotty success, and it was generally considered not the most popular way to start matches with people. Throughout Tennis's history, it has seen some players such as HerpyWhooves and {{autumnithink}} who were notorious for their habit of uploading serves to whoever they wanted as an opponent with no prior (or subsequent) communication whatsoever. While most of these serves were not volleyed, they on occasion were and did in fact blossom into full matches, such as {{autumnithink}} vs. {{CorruptionSound}} (2011) and HerpyWhooves vs. {{Gamebop}} (2011). It is still overall highly discouraged that one start matches with anyone this way however.


==Poop Chains==
==Doubles Tennis==
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJP9oaEMvCk</youtube>
Doubles Tennis is the practice of teams of two going at it. See [[Team Tennis#Doubles Tennis|here]] for more.


Poop Chains are usually endless ongoing matches with no specific order of players in which anyone who wants to volley the next round can do so. The first chain was started by BMATF in 2007 and ended after 51 Rounds, and the second chain was started by ShadowWario/FancySanta in 2008, which ended after 53 rounds. Every subsequent chain is still ongoing at the present time, including the 3rd Chain started by Architect1, the 4th Chain started by TheNeopreneJunebug, which is a specifically Pizza themed chain, the 5th chain started by Gamebop, unlike the other chains Gamebop's chain has no rules so you can feel free to edit anyone's video, and during 2014 the Snully Series is a Unofficial Chain that was started by Kyoobur9000, which beats most other poop chains with a total of 100 rounds which as of today is still ongoing.
==Triples Tennis==
Tennis with three! See [[Team Tennis#Triples Tennis|here]] for more information.


There have also been a series of a unique kind of chain called a Pyramid Chain, of which there have been 3 of since 2008 and the 3rd chain is currently ongoing. In a pyramid chain every round is volleyed by two people up to a halfway point, at which every two rounds then becomes volleyed by one person, in which a rotation starting with a single video also ends a single video. Every group of volleying people to a previous round is divided by Tiers, which is represented by letters typically.
==Multi-Ways==


Example of layout(numbers marking player spots):
Larger matches with more than two people, but still in a repeating pattern. See [[Multi-Way Match|here]] for more information.


a___________1
==Poop Chains==
A '''Poop Chain''' is a longer match where a different person makes each round. These are usually large, community-wide collaborative events. See [[Chains|here]] for more.


b_____2__________3
=Tennis Café and Café Staff (Tennis Staff)=


c___4____5_____6_____7
The '''Tennis Café''' is the great congregation place of the world of tennis. Historically started on [[YouChew]] before first moving to [[YTPMania]], then to [[YellowTealPurple]] later on, it is where tennis is discussed, matches are born, and people generally have a good time. While it has become much less active due to services like Discord, it still exists and serves as an important resource to this day.


d__8_9_10_11_12_13_14_15
This Café (along with tennis as a whole) is overseen by the [[Tennis Staff]], the moderators that oversee the tennis section of the medium's given forum home, and a group of individuals who strive for the success of the community and keep it stimulated and active through the hosting of events, the organization of interesting tennis matches and unique setups, and (under a more modern understanding) helping to set an example of a great person... and a great player. If you ever need help with something in tennis and can't get answers elsewhere, they are the best people to ask.


e___16___17____18____19
'''See [[Tennis Staff|here]] for more!'''


f_____20__________21
=Achievements=
 
As stated above, the first tennis match took place in '''2007''', between [[Conradslater vs Misselaineous10|Conradslater and Misslaineous10.]]
g___________22


This can also be endless, with multiple rotations in this fashion occurring, starting with the single Round in the last Tier in the next.
The longest accepted tennis round is '''"Vore. Unbirth. Dinner." by {{MycroProcessor}}''', at a whopping '''six hours'''. The round is the final (sixth) round of [[Nineroe vs. MycroProcessor]], taking place during the first set of the [[Match Voting Tournament]]. While there are rounds longer, these are usually not counted due to lack of content or effort.


=Tennis Cafe and Cafe Staff=
<youtube>Fol6UL1EUtM</youtube>


==First Generation(2008)==
The longest true self-match is the "idc r1k" by dillon, a match that is at over a thousand rounds long. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtz_UBFzs0Jg6EeYXbnq2hkEMFGVVAPh6


One of the earliest prolific players of Youtube Poop Tennis was RabbitSnore, who was the lead admin of the Youchew forums alongside his real life friend Thereisnospoon303(often called TINS for short) in the era that immediately followed the reign of Conrad Slater. A general chat thread unique to the newly made tennis subforum, called The Poop Tennis Cafe, was opened in the forums (and also on the backup site, Planet Freedom) in January 2008. This thread was made to discuss matches past and present, set up future matches between people, including a roster listing people that they want to play or have already played that might including variations of rules, and to have "refreshments". It would in time garner a notable reputation of mainly being a spammy thread of tennis staff members and its regulars sharing inside jokes to each other, often in the form of various different images. After 4 months of managing the section on his own, and following the forum switch-over from its Vanilla layout, Rabbit employed the first version of a new mod staff unique to the tennis subforums on the evening of May 7th, 2008 to deal with tennis related threads such as moving threads, updating rosters, and hosting tourneys. The staff at this time was made up of 7 members, with Crash2991, NS2, TheHappyFungus, Nuthead, strong414bad, and RAKninja being the new additions, mainly for being the most active posters in the Cafe and thusly having the closest connections with Rabbit. In time, they would quickly become popularly known as the Tennis Fucks, a term coined by RAKninja and used frequently by him to describe his fellow staff.  
The longest 1v1 match is {{system128}} vs. The British YTPer.


It is also regarded that Youchew moderator/administrator Emperor Ing was always considered by the original staff as an "unofficial fuck", while never actually being on the staff itself due to him already being instated with moderator and later administrator powers, but having very in-depth involvement with the staff's activities in the early years to the point where he was considered just as essential. It is because of this that he is recognized as having served the staff in the past by retaining the official service medal and also has a round made in a special multi-way match reserved exclusively for staff members only.
The longest tennis match is '''[[Missadaxio]]''', at nearly '''14000 rounds and counting'''. It isn't likely to be passed any time soon, as the match plan to go on forever.


Besides just having moderation powers, the Fucks have over time informally acquired a status and reputation of being "experts" at tennis, due to each member throughout its history having their own unique takes on the game, their own theories and their own perspectives on how different tennis matches play out, in addition to historically usually having some of the greatest passion for the sport out of all tennis players.
Not a single player has won more than one individual [[tennis tournament]]. However, if counting collaborative matches, {{GameBop}} has the most wins with three: [[GTT]], [[TTT]], and [[MVT]]. For other tournament-related achievements, see [[Tennis Tournaments#Achievements|here.]].


==Second Generation(2008-2010) and Third Generation(2012-2014)==
The first time two [[tennis staff]] played each other was [[strong414bad vs. Nuthead]] in December, 2007. The first time this happened in a tournament environment was in [[TL2]] Gameweek 2, between [[strong414bad vs. RabbitSnore|{{strong414bad}} and RabbitSnore]].


The Fucks have since undergone many changes in its lineup of members, beginning as soon as 5 days later when NS2 would be promoted by majority vote of administration to a Moderator of the site. Gamebop would become the next addition to the Staff in July 2008 originally for the purpose of managing the 2nd Tennis Chain and being able to edit the original post created by ShadowWario/FancySanta, yet continued to retain the position until the forum closed, after a record 10 years and 2 months. Moogle would join next on November 18, 2008, around the same time that Nuthead would be revoked from the staff and banned from the forums. MycroProcessor would join by popular demand on February 27th, 2009, essentially acting as the fill-in for Nuthead, and TheHappyFungus would become a mod around this same time. DaftPunkYoshi would also be added to the Staff on June 25th, 2009, later becoming a moderator of the forum in order to bridge a social divide between the Tennis Staff and Moderation Staff in August 2011. NS2 would resign and return to being a moderator in April and October 2009 respectively, before resigning permenantly on August 6th, 2010 to return to being a full time Cafe Staff member, although activity wise would be very sparse. RAKninja would publically announce his retirement from the staff and forum on August 4th, 2010, the same day that MrDrunkenFox, then a long time moderator of the forums, would step down and upon personal request be added to the Cafe Staff. Chrisgendo and TheChutley would be jointly added to the staff in December 2010, and AshcrementVII and trepmaws would follow in January 2012 in order to assist Chrisgendo, who up to that point was essentially managing much of the tennis section on her own, during a period where much of the other members on staff had become inactive. Following this period, long time staff members Moogle, NS2, Crash2991 and strong414bad would all quietly retire their staff titles following Chrisgendo's public retirement announcement from staff and forum in September 2012. CorruptionSound would be added to fill the void left by Ashcrement's retirement on January 10th, 2014, with theFXexpert later added on June 13th mainly to help the staff with the collab section.
The most viewed tennis round is "(YTP Tennis Round One) 20th Century Fox and Universal have a party" by Paperking, a serve for their match against TrickyMario7654. As of June 14th, 2025, it sits at 2,072,180 views!


==Fourth Generation(2014-2018)==
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsHviQDa0XA</youtube>
 
The proceeding day, a major staff change occurred on Youchew in which the Janitors(moderators assigned to very specific sections, in Youchew's case the "Poop Talk" section) and Tennis Cafe Staff were merged into one, thus creating the Cafe Staff, which gained equal control over the entire Youtube Poop section of the forums, a change which by complete anomaly would transition then current Janitor Stuart K. Reilly over to the Cafe Staff, although he would only maintain this position for 2 months and contribute very little. He would however later on develop a signifigant reacquaintance with the staff and tennis regulars, even going as far as to finally produce a series of Youtube Poop News episodes covering many aspects of YTP tennis in early 2015. In May 2015, MrDrunkenFox left the Tennis Staff and rejoined as a Moderator after a hiatus of 5 years, the longest gap of time in-between service of any moderator so far. On May 31st, 2016 TheChutley announced his retirement from the staff and was later replaced by Metroid998. Due to being short-handed by theFXexpert's long absense during this time, LaVie CestLol was also added to the staff. On April 7th, 2018, Trepmaws would step down from his position and was replaced by Biodegradable.
 
==Fifth Generation(2019-present)==
 
With the Youchew forums about to close and the community set to split in two in August 2018, MycroProcessor, CorruptionSound, Biodegradable, Metroid998 and theFXexpert all agreed to migrate over to the more Youtube Poop-focused YTPMania forums, opened and run by Smonge, in order to build a new home for the Tennis Section. Gamebop opted not to immediately retain their staff position, effectively stepping down for an indeterminate time with the closing of the forum on September 29th. The rest of the staff at the time also eventually quietly retired after a slow, inactive first year on YTPMania, at a time when many of the new generation coming into the tennis section were very curious about when the next tournament would happen. Eventually, mrdoognoog and VidTens443, two members who were around for the twilight years in tennis on Youchew, together with newer member Nubman41 and YTPMania admin Morshe started the first tournament on the new forum themselves, the Tennis League V, and managed to persuade dew to come out of retirement to participate and extend a guiding hand across the new generation of tennisers. With much of the old staff inactive, mrdoognoog, VidTens443 and dew all became promoted to the new wave of Cafe Staff on YTPMania on Oct 6 and Oct 22, 2019 respectively. The Youchew forums returned in a new iteration in 2020, and the staff migrated back to its old home, with Metroid998, VidTens443 and mrdoognoog as the active staff members and dew as one of the two admins and leaders of the new site, but still acting as a fuck within the tennis section as well, much in the same way as RabbitSnore and Ing previously. Zekii was knighted as the newest member of the staff on April 6, 2020. The new Youchew forums however did not last, suffering a managerial crisis that ultimately led to its shutting down in the middle of April 2020, moving everyone back to YTPMania except for dew, who was banned from the site for about a year, ultimately ending her tenure as an active staff member. Nubman41 and system128 were promoted to tennis staff on Febaruary 3, 2022, while mrdoognoog retired from active staff on October 1st of that year. infinitysnapz was promoted to staff on August 20, 2023, followed by AngryLuigi23 on July 5, 2024 following the departure of both Zekii and Nubman41.
 
The active staff as it stands today is made up of VidTens443, infinitysnapz, AngryLuigi23, and system28. On the Youchew archive, RabbitSnore remains displayed as a staff member in order to recognize the staff's roots of creation and his contributions to the tennis section overall during his active period on the forum.
 
The Poop Tennis Cafe as it stands today now exists on YTPMania, and, while still retaining some activity, reaches no where close to where the Tennis Cafes of old used to reach. The Cafe thread had 4 original iterations on the Youchew Forums: the first opening on January 28, 2008 and being locked on March 31, 2008 after 104 pages, the second opening on April 2, 2008 and closing on January 8, 2010 after 883 pages, the third opening on January 8, 2010 and closing on October 11, 2012 after 842 pages(with about 4 months of posts in early 2011 lost as a result of Youchew's infamous "Oz incident"), and the fourth and final iteration opening on October 13, 2012 and lasting until the closure of the Youchew Forums on September 29, 2018 after 488 pages. RabbitSnore upon briefly returning to the Youchew forums in January 2013 expressed his complete disbelief that the then current version of the thread continued to persist. The Cafe Thread that currently exists on YTPMania was first opened on August 21, 2018, and has currently seen 1977 posts (there are no pages in this version due to the unusual inferface of the YTPMania forums). Skype and Discord versions of the Cafe have existed, which has at times seemed to subtract from the discussion of the original threads, but the Cafe thread proper remains with a reputation of being more relaxed, controlled, and easy to follow conversation-wise nature, being considered much more refreshing and comfortable. In the present day, much of the tennis community activity is now had over on the discord The Tennis Isles, which has in some cases kind of become a forum for tennis in its own right.
 
=Achievements=
As stated above, the first tennis match took place in '''2007''', between [[Conradslater vs Misselaineous10|Conradslater and Misslaineous10.]]
 
The longest accepted tennis round is '''"Vore. Unbirth. Dinner." by {{MycroProcessor}}''', at a whopping '''six hours'''. While there are rounds longer, these are usually not counted due to lack of content or effort.
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fol6UL1EUtM</youtube>
 
The longest self-match is idk
 
The longest tennis match is '''[[Missadaxio]]''', at over '''11000 rounds and counting'''. It isn't likely to be passed any time soon, as the match plan to go on forever.
 
Not a single player has won more than one individual [[tennis tournament]]. However, if counting collaborative matches, {{GameBop}} has the most wins with three: [[GTT]], [[TTT]], and [[MVT]]. For other tournament-related achievements, see [[Tennis Tournaments#Achievements]].


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=Sources=

Latest revision as of 08:50, 30 October 2025

YTP Tennis, also known as Youtube Poop Tennis, Video Tennis, Remix Tennis or simply Tennis, is a artistic medium derivative of Photoshop Tennis and Youtube Poop involving the back-and-forth editing of video projects, often absurdist in nature.

While starting mainly as a derivative of YouTube Poop, and in the early years much more embraced by the full Youtube Poop community, it has increasingly become its own thing as time went on and the community of mainline Youtube Poop and the community of tennis have grown largely seperate. Much of modern tennis is a completely different beast in comparison to Youtube Poop, often veering into much more experimental, atmospheric, avant-guarde and generally much more overstimulating territory.

There are many different types of tennis that have evolved over the years, but the tried and true "vanilla" 6 round 1v1 has held steady just as much.

This wiki is dedicated to everything about the sport - so if you want to know more, you're in the right place!

If you know nothing at all, see the Getting Started page to... get started!

Additional Recommended Reading:

The Revised Observational Guide to Video Tennis

The Revised Recreational Guide to Video Tennis

History

Origins

The idea of remixing another person's video can be supposedly traced back as early as April of 2007, when dvariano uploaded a video called "Elated Chronological Junctures" that was supposedly the first "repoop" video, and thus considered to be technically the first "Round 2" ever made. However the original video that he edited, made by a user named bahbugandhum, has yet to be found again. Alongside this, Photoshop Tennis already existed, and original YouChew admin conradslater was a fan and an avid participant of it; there exists evidence of him engaging the community with it as early as June of 2007. As someone who took YTP seriously enough to consider it genuine art at that time, the equation to put together the tennis format with video, especially YTP, seemed to be a natural one for him to make.

The first full match, also the first time that tennis was ever applied to the medium of video entirely on the internet, was in the form of Conradslater and Misslaineous10, starting on August 11th, 2007 and ended on August 21st. In it's taking place, this match forth the full idea of someone doing a remix of someone else's video, and having the original maker do the same back, creating a "Tennis" like pattern. From this match onward the concept greatly expanded to great - and at the beginning considerably unimaginable - lengths of development and refinement.

The Intitial "Freewheeling" Era (2007-2008)

At first, there was hardly any tennis community in a well defined sense to speak of; much of the tennis matches that did happen following the first one was done so in a way that would be seen by modern standards as very disorganized, as many merely skirted around the concept in curiosity without ever really committing fully to the potential that tennis in a YTP/Video context could offer. That being said, there were a handful of notable early names that became early fixtures in the world of tennis: BMATF played the second ever tennis match with Markie, and UncleChuckTH played the third ever tennis match with conradslater (the latter's second match), and both UncleChuckTH and BMATF would continue to exist in the world of tennis until the early 2010s. TangerineImpz vs. SeductiveBaz was played entirely start to finish on August 21, 2007, the day that the final round of the first tennis match was uploaded, and this was for a very long time the fastest tennis match ever played; SeductiveBaz would also be an early fixture and continued to tennis in some capacity until a full 12 years later. Second only to conradslater's early activity in tennis was that of MrDrunkenFox, who played multiple early games including with Tentor, plex14, PapaGonzales and Furnessly. This latter player, along with other such players such as InsinerateHymn, JazzDanceForChildren, TyrannosaurusReich, MelvanaInChains, dvariano, Template:Luioigi, ADHDYoshi, GameCubeHero, Intenseowl, MVJ5197, 3inchhorse, ELPSteel, SushieBoy, Vorhias, sonicnerd23, and SesakaGenX would also serve to play their own individual roles in defining the nature of tennis at its earliest onsets. Tennis is considered to have reached one of its first peaks in its intersection with "Robotnik YTP" at the time - videos that focused entirely on remixing episodes of The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog and its main antagonist - in particular the matches of UncleChuckTH vs. Wikiwow(2007), the first ever match to reach ten rounds, Stegblob vs. TyrannosaurusReich (2007), and especially BMATF vs. UncleChuckTH vs. Wikiwow(2007). All of these would build a foundation for a strand of tennis that would eventually continue long separate from the main tennis community, which, although small, would localize and organize itself largely on the YouChew forums.

Aside from all of these other players however, one of the most important to come out of these first months was RabbitSnore, who played his first tennis match with real-life friend Thereisnospoon303, or TINS, in October 2007. Rabbit immediately came to develop a passionate and vested interest in tennis - the places that it could go and the ways in which it could develop - from the very offset of his entrance into it, and he sought to give the medium the attention and the analysis that it deserved through his initial position on the "Vanilla" YouChew forums as chief editor of the forum's "newsroom" - from October/November 2007 onward, Rabbit began his regular "Tennis Review" series of articles, with InsinerateHymn vs. PukingCyberman(2007), GameCubeHero vs. Intenseowl(2007) and Furnessly vs. MrDrunkenFox(2007) the first three matches he covered in this matter. He would contribute a "retrospective review" of conradslater vs. Misselaineous10 shortly thereafter, and it is from this point onward, largely through his insistence, that the importance and the nature of the first ever tennis match began to become recognized in the way it now is today.

His prominence in this activity and the quality of his articles for the time gained him the trust and admiration of Conrad himself, and he was able to use this sway to convince him to allow the tennis section to begin hosting its first tennis tournaments, with Gallers being the initial organizer of the first few to take place. After Rabbit had accumulated a respectable roster of completed matches including with YamiMario, SushieBoy, Miss10, and PapaGonzales, Rabbit took on Conrad himself in the now legendary match of RabbitSnore vs. conradslater(2007). At a time when tennis usually came in the language of either "comedic" or of the extreme varieties conceived in the first match, this match was seen as a completely different third approach - of tennis as very much an art and of a thoughtful exchange in and of itself, even if this exchange was liable to get wild in other ways.

In January 2008, Rabbit had gained enough of an influence over tennis - having played further matches with MrDrunkenFox, pimpsahoy, strong414bad, and UncleChuckTH, that he was able to create some of the earliest foundational texts on how tennis was meant to be played and approached: the Observational and Recreational Guides to tennis. On January 28, Rabbit also created the first of the "Tennis Café" threads, a general chat for the tennis section that allowed for the community to begin to consolidate together and organize themselves properly for the first time. Around this time, newer members began to enter into the community or gain a greater degree of visibility in the section, including Crash2991, strong414bad, GameBop, and Nuthead. For much of the original Cafe thread's incarnation, only Rabbit and Crash would be doing the majority of the regular posting, and between them talked about tennis matches often, with RabbitSnore vs. conradslater, conradslater vs. Miss10 and MilkR0und vs. Y2Zero(2007) receiving repeated reference and discussion as part of an early canon of foundational matches for the community. Somewhere in this period due to his enthusiasm and prolific activity, RabbitSnore even began being regarded by a few as "The King of Tennis" - a title he never was comfortable with.

Conrad's last match played was with TheDarkRises in January 2008. He began to make a lot of strange, aggressive and elitist decisions in how he shaped and restructured the forum community, including among other things enforcing his "War on AIDS"(a crusade against what he termed to be low effort YTPs based on source and editor preference) upon the community in addition to a requirement for forum users to play at least one tennis match in order to be eligible to be "featured" on the site. The decline of his reign on the "Vanilla" forums coincided with the tennis community, in the absence of most everyone else, continuing to grow and consolidate around a growing collection of regular tennis players and posters in the Cafe. RAKninja, theHappyFungus, and NS2 became such members at this time, and all engaged in tennis matches both with each other and other exterior players, with Temeku/MTB710, GreatBritishTurd and TheDarkRises all beginning to make regular tennis appearances. The "Vanilla" forums officially shut down at the end of March 2008, as conradslater relinquished control over to RabbitSnore and TINS, who purchased new forum software and a new server to give the community a fresh, laid-back start - free from the drama and the hardship of the site's original incarnation. Rabbit promptly created a new version of the Tennis Cafe, and it was shortly in the wake of this site's beginning that the official rules of tennis were finally laid down for the first time, stipulating the 6-round standard with which all tennis would orient itself around from this point onward.

RabbitSnore, as Admin and the "First" "Tennis Fuck"

The spring of 2008 was a prolific time for tennis under Rabbit and TINS' administration. RabbitSnore himself however began to considerably slow in activity around this point, with some of his matches played in this era being with the likes of BMATF, theHappyFungus, GameCubeHero, Christoph and Nuthead. He was now an administrator and "second in command" of a forum that was ever so steadily growing in activity and users of all personality types - often the overwhelm of the rest of the site would get to him, resulting in him often retreating to his second Tennis Cafe thread to get away from it all. Multiple regulars of the Café would over time make this thread their only home on the entire site, and the tennis section the only active place that they would visit during their periods of activity.

Rabbit took the initiative to create a separate staff for this subforum in order to take the weight off of him managing the entire section on his own, and thus - the tennis staff was first formed in May 2008. A matter of months later, RAKninja, the oldest and last chosen of the first generation of staff, would christen them with the informal moniker of the Tennis Fucks, a name that has stuck into the present on occasion. Many of the matches played in this period on the YouChew forums occurred between the members who would be chosen for this staff, including theHappyFungus vs. RabbitSnore, theHappyFungus vs. RAKninja, theHappyFungus vs. Nuthead, Crash2991 vs. NS2, Crash2991 vs. RAKninja, Crash2991 vs. strong414bad, RabbitSnore vs. Nuthead, theHappyFungus vs. NS2, and Nuthead vs. NS2. Out of these, the seeds that made up the foundation of much of the initial in-jokes in the community were first created, and would continue to do so with RAKninja supplying the lions share of enduring moments in tennis.

While there were originally six members chosen, making for a total of seven when counting Rabbit, the lineup would continue in a state of flux from its inception onward with the promotion and departure of various members, but generally settled around an early core of RAKninja, Crash2991 and strong414bad as those the most faithful to the tennis section in this initial phase. [to be continued]

The first matches

The following is a list of the first 50 matches ever played (or alternatively, every match from August to the start of November 2007). The timestamps are based on their time started/completed on the YouChew forums. As there was yet to be a concept of a "failed" match, ever match is here is listed as complete, even if some only go to 2-3 rounds.

Matches are sorted by date started, with the precise order going by when matches started sometimes by the hour and minute the first round of a match was posted if multiple matches start on the same day. Date format is MM-DD-YYYY.

Match Start Date End Date Verification
1 conradslater vs. Miss10 08-11-2007 08-21-2007 YouChew
2 BMATF vs. Markie 08-19-2007 09-03-2007 YouChew
3 UncleChuckTH vs. conradslater 08-19-2007 08-29-2007 YouChew
4 TangerineImpz vs. SeductiveBaz 08-21-2007 08-21-2007 YouChew
5 ZippZapp vs. ADHDYoshi 08-30-2007 09-02-2007 YouChew
6 KingCornholio vs. Ophios 08-30-2007 09-14-2007 YouChew
7 MrDrunkenFox vs. Tentor 08-31-2007 09-02-2007 YouChew
8 UncleChuckTH vs. Yenehckcid 09-01-2007 10-07-2007 YouChew
9 glitchboyadvance vs. conradslater 09-01-2007 10-19-2007 YouChew
10 seconteen13 vs. 1upclock 09-01-2007 09-02-2007 YouChew
11 Plex vs. MrDrunkenFox 09-02-2007 09-07-2007 YouChew
12 AimManEXE vs. Arufonzu 09-10-2007 09-23-2007 YouChew
13 Wikiwow vs. MetalAcid5 09-14-2007 09-15-2007 YouChew
14 JazzDanceForChildren vs. TyrannosaurusReich 09-22-2007 09-24-2007 YouChew
15 PapaGonzales vs. MrDrunkenFox 09-23-2007 09-28-2007 YouChew
16 conradslater vs. Gnomebob 09-27-2007 10-04-2007 YouChew
17 Idiotska vs. SoldierElerium 09-28-2007 10-04-2007 YouChew
18 BMATF vs. Dhgriff9/UberNooberPooper 09-29-2007 10-05-2007 YouChew
19 hom906sar vs. strong414bad 09-30-2007 10-08-2007 YouChew
20 Bobomb99 vs. Misselaineous10

10-03-2007 11-07-2007 YouChew
21 Luioigi vs. scimath12 10-03-2007 10-10-2007 YouChew
22 SeductiveBaz vs. UncleChuckTH 10-05-2007 10-17-2007 YouChew
23 azsxdc vs. Y2Zero 10-06-2007 10-12-2007 YouChew
24 Chain Poop 10-06-2007 12-29-2007 YouChew
25 KittyGabyIMEANGOAT vs. MelvanaInChains 10-13-2007 10-14-2007 YouChew
26 TantricNferno vs. Terrorist

10-17-2007 10-19-2007 YouChew
27 MelvanaInChains vs. TyrannosaurusReich 10-17-2007 10-21-2007 YouChew
28 MetalAcid5 vs. Tentor 10-21-2007 10-25-2007 YouChew
29 ADHDYoshi vs. Ikwaylx 10-23-2007 10-27-2007 YouChew
30 Wikiwow vs. UncleChuckTH 10-23-2007 11-18-2007 YouChew
31 Nimrodpowerz vs. MelvanaInChains 10-24-2007 10-24-2007 YouChew
32 RabbitSnore vs. Thereisnospoon303 10-24-2007 10-30-2007 YouChew
33 cloggedone vs. hom906sar 10-24-2007 10-28-2007 YouChew
34 SushieBoy vs. kiz038 10-24-2007 10-27-2007 YouChew
35 SpamNapkin vs. BMATF

10-24-2007 10-26-2007 YouChew
36 Furnessly vs. MrDrunkenFox 10-26-2007 11-03-2007 YouChew
37 Wizkid837 vs. UberPooper12 10-27-2007 11-01-2007 YouChew
38 GameCubeHero vs. Intenseowl 10-27-2007 10-31-2007 YouChew
39 heartlessmushroom vs. Razor64a 10-27-2007 10-28-2007 YouChew
40 MVJ52197 vs. 3inchhorse 10-28-2007 11-04-2007 YouChew
41 MesuginaChicken vs. SeductiveBaz vs. hom906sar 10-28-2007 11-05-2007 YouChew
42 BMATF vs. ELPSteel 10-28-2007 11-05-2007 YouChew
43 SobmicSSBB vs. plex14 10-29-2007 11-07-2007 YouChew
44 InsinerateHymn vs. PukingCyberman 10-29-2007 11-01-2007 YouChew
45 RabbitSnore vs. SushieBoy 10-30-2007 11-05-2007 YouChew
46 Cortes vs. MelvanaInChains 10-30-2007 11-06-2007 YouChew
47 DrKelexo vs. Vorhias 10-31-2007 11-19-2007 YouChew
48 sonicnerd23 vs. Hoss1993/HossTehMaster 10-31-2007 11-03-2007 YouChew
49 BMATF vs. conradslater

10-31-2007 11-5-2007 YouChew
50 EdE0tt vs. MAXXNinja 11-01-2007 11-06-2007 YouChew

Further Developments

The very first rematch in tennis (players going at it more than once) took place between MelvanaInChains and nimrodpowerz, with their second match going from November 17th to the 24th, 2007 - ending exactly a month after their first match concluded. [1]

Typical Game Format + Etiquette


The rules of YTP Tennis are often customized to suit each pooper's needs. However, one of the original, and well known, formats is as follows:

  • One player (P1) asks another, or in some cases the community as a whole, whether or not they would like to participate in a game. Here the number of videos to be made (or rounds, typically 4 or 6) is defined, as well as the length of each, and any other additional conditions. If an open challenge is made, a video is sometimes supplied. This is "Round 1", the serve of the tennis match.
  • Another player (P2) accepts the challenge, and edits over P1's first video to make "Round 2". In addition to editing the video supplied, P2 can add new sources to mix in with it if they so choose.
  • P1 follows through by remixing the new video to make "Round 3", adding sources of their own if they so choose. The game continues in a back and forth fashion like this until the round limit is met.
  • It is always absolutely essential that the previous round always be used in some way to make each subsequent round, otherwise it is not considered true tennis.

For additional conditions to a match, they are usually outlined in these such ways:

- specific sources that are to be used for a match, like "video games only" (Furnessly vs. MycroProcessor (2008-2009)), "Final Fantasy only"(Moogle vs. Mazz0Murder(2009)) or having each round correspond to a sequential letter of the alphabet with added sources and time limit (CorruptionSound's "ABC" Tennis Multi-Way (2011-2014))

- the amount of sources that can be added (in the early years, it was commonly suggested that added sources be capped at a maximum of three per round; in Kurkop vs. Metzgorrre(2010), the condition was that No sources were to be added)

- specific software to be used, such as WMM (dani_phantump vs. GameBop(2012-2014), CorruptionSound vs. Massivezephyr14 vs. GameBop vs. BSP66c vs. Metroid998(2010-2012))

- editing restrictions, such as "no visual distortion/ear rape"(NS2 vs. ChrisGendo(2009))

- a nonstandard match type, such as Wildcard (RabbitSnore vs. Crash2991(2008)), Multiplied Time (quax94 vs. MycroProcessor(2009)) or Panic Tennis (dani_phantump vs. GameBop vs. LeSuperKoffee(2012))

Exceptions + Special Cases

Often, 6 rounds in total is the conventional amount of rounds made that make a normal match considered "complete". However, in certain circumstances, especially if the players enjoy working off of each other, the number of rounds can often get extended to 8 or more. TheChutley and vvaluigi began a match together with the intent of playing 100 rounds in total beginning in 2008, and have gotten as far as Round 75 in the present day, with a five year window of inactivity between 2011 and 2016. TheChutley is also known for often playing matches with various opponents that get extended to 8 rounds, having done so in her matches with GameBop, quax94, ChrisGendo, AbsoluteBillion, JakeSteel, Rarenut59 and SesakaGenX, to name some. Her first match with Imaperson additionally extended all the way to 10 rounds, at a time when the only known instance of this otherwise was Wikiwow vs. UncleChuckTH(2007), the first 1v1 match to go this far.

In some cases, especially in tennis's early years, matches could be declared "complete" at an odd number, as well as one under the conventional amount of 6. This usually came about as a mutual agreement between the players involved that the match had reached a natural end, if not exactly a conventional one. Matches such as Crash2991 vs. strong414bad(2008) and AshcrementVII vs. UncleChuckTH(2012) were called complete at 5 rounds, and in another, much rarer instance, RabbitSnore vs. NS2 (2008-2009) was given "honorary completion" after only 3 rounds. Other matches like RabbitSnore vs. conradslater (2007) and Kurkop vs. LeSuperKoffee (2010) were declared complete at the unusual amount of 9 rounds. These circumstances usually only happen when the last even round of a match is either unable or unwilling to be made by the volleying side, but there is not a desire to consider the match "failed" for sentimental reasons, usually due to the players being close as friends or the quality of the match as it stands being considered too great for failure.

Additionally, matches can sometimes stall at an odd number with an even finishing round never being made and the match being considered neither completed nor failed due to a loss of communication. These include matches such as BMATF vs. Markie(2007, the second ever tennis match), NS2 vs. Markie(2012), dani_phantump vs. robochao1(2015-2016) and SushieBoy vs. guysafari(2010), all matches that never received a Round 6.

Ultimately though, a match is traditionally considered "failed" when one or both players have lost the desire to continue a match and the agreed number of rounds is not reached, and every player in tennis comes to play at least one, and often at least a few failed matches throughout their tennis career. There is however no definitive time limit to how long a tennis match must take. Metroid998 vs. AshcrementVII notably took an entire 5 years to complete, lasting from 2011's Round 1 to 2016's Round 6. dani_phantump vs. vel 17 additionally took 4 years to complete, lasting from 2012 to 2016. Whether or not a match fails depends entirely on the players involved and their willingness to continue the match.

Etiquette is generally recommended when it comes to starting matches with people - like the game itself, communication is key. In the early days of tennis a direct challenge to a specific player would sometimes be cast without any prior planning to ultimately spotty success, and it was generally considered not the most popular way to start matches with people. Throughout Tennis's history, it has seen some players such as HerpyWhooves and autumnithink who were notorious for their habit of uploading serves to whoever they wanted as an opponent with no prior (or subsequent) communication whatsoever. While most of these serves were not volleyed, they on occasion were and did in fact blossom into full matches, such as autumnithink vs. CorruptionSound (2011) and HerpyWhooves vs. GameBop (2011). It is still overall highly discouraged that one start matches with anyone this way however.

Doubles Tennis

Doubles Tennis is the practice of teams of two going at it. See here for more.

Triples Tennis

Tennis with three! See here for more information.

Multi-Ways

Larger matches with more than two people, but still in a repeating pattern. See here for more information.

Poop Chains

A Poop Chain is a longer match where a different person makes each round. These are usually large, community-wide collaborative events. See here for more.

Tennis Café and Café Staff (Tennis Staff)

The Tennis Café is the great congregation place of the world of tennis. Historically started on YouChew before first moving to YTPMania, then to YellowTealPurple later on, it is where tennis is discussed, matches are born, and people generally have a good time. While it has become much less active due to services like Discord, it still exists and serves as an important resource to this day.

This Café (along with tennis as a whole) is overseen by the Tennis Staff, the moderators that oversee the tennis section of the medium's given forum home, and a group of individuals who strive for the success of the community and keep it stimulated and active through the hosting of events, the organization of interesting tennis matches and unique setups, and (under a more modern understanding) helping to set an example of a great person... and a great player. If you ever need help with something in tennis and can't get answers elsewhere, they are the best people to ask.

See here for more!

Achievements

As stated above, the first tennis match took place in 2007, between Conradslater and Misslaineous10.

The longest accepted tennis round is "Vore. Unbirth. Dinner." by MycroProcessor, at a whopping six hours. The round is the final (sixth) round of Nineroe vs. MycroProcessor, taking place during the first set of the Match Voting Tournament. While there are rounds longer, these are usually not counted due to lack of content or effort.

The longest true self-match is the "idc r1k" by dillon, a match that is at over a thousand rounds long. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtz_UBFzs0Jg6EeYXbnq2hkEMFGVVAPh6

The longest 1v1 match is system128 vs. The British YTPer.

The longest tennis match is Missadaxio, at nearly 14000 rounds and counting. It isn't likely to be passed any time soon, as the match plan to go on forever.

Not a single player has won more than one individual tennis tournament. However, if counting collaborative matches, GameBop has the most wins with three: GTT, TTT, and MVT. For other tournament-related achievements, see here..

The first time two tennis staff played each other was strong414bad vs. Nuthead in December, 2007. The first time this happened in a tournament environment was in TL2 Gameweek 2, between strong414bad and RabbitSnore.

The most viewed tennis round is "(YTP Tennis Round One) 20th Century Fox and Universal have a party" by Paperking, a serve for their match against TrickyMario7654. As of June 14th, 2025, it sits at 2,072,180 views!

Sources

  1. ↑ https://ftlfw.net/archives/websites/youchew.net/archive/forum/19-tennis-completed/85033-melvanainchains-vs-nimrodpowerz-again/1
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