YTP Tennis

YTP Tennis, also known as Youtube Poop Tennis, Video Tennis, Remix Tennis or simply Tennis, is a artistic medium derivative of Photoshop Tennis and Youtube Poop involving the back-and-forth editing of video projects, often absurdist in nature.

While starting mainly as a derivative of YouTube Poop, and in the early years much more embraced by the full Youtube Poop community, it has increasingly become its own thing as time went on and the community of mainline Youtube Poop and the community of tennis have grown largely seperate. Much of modern tennis is a completely different beast in comparison to Youtube Poop, often veering into much more experimental, atmospheric, avant-guarde and generally much more overstimulating territory.

There are many different types of tennis that have evolved over the years, but the tried and true "vanilla" 6 round 1v1 has held steady just as much.

This wiki is dedicated to everything about the sport - so if you want to know more, you're in the right place!

If you know nothing at all, see the Getting Started page to... get started!

History

The idea of remixing another person's YTP video can be supposedly traced back as early as April of 2007, when dvariano uploaded a video called "Elated Chronological Junctures" that was supposedly the first "repoop" video, and thus considered to be technically the first "Round 2" ever made. However the original video that he edited, made by a user named bahbugandhum(known now in that a number of the sources he used started completely unknown but would find niches in many places in the years to come), has yet to be found again. The first full match however was in the form of Conradslater and Misslaineous10 which started on August 11th, 2007 and ended on August 21st, with brought forth the full idea of someone doing a "repoop" of someone else's video, and having the original maker do the same back, creating a "Tennis" like pattern. From this match onward the concept greatly expanded to great - and at the beginning considerably unimaginable - lengths of development and refinement.

Typical Game Format

The rules of YTP Tennis are often customized to suit each pooper's needs. However, one of the original, and well known, formats is as follows:

• One player (P1) asks another, or in some cases the community as a whole, whether or not they would like to participate in a game. Here the number of videos to be made (or rounds, typically 4 or 6) is defined, as well as the length of each, and any other additional conditions. If an open challenge is made, a video is sometimes supplied. This is "Round 1", the serve of the tennis match.
• Another player (P2) accepts the challenge, and edits over P1's first video to make "Round 2". In addition to editing the video supplied, P2 can add new sources to mix in with it if they so choose.
• P1 follows through by remixing the new video to make "Round 3", adding sources of their own if they so choose. The game continues in a back and forth fashion like this until the round limit is met.
• It is always absolutely essential that the previous round always be used in some way to make each subsequent round, otherwise it is not considered true tennis.

For additional conditions to a match, they are usually outlined in these such ways:

• specific sources that are to be used for a match, like "video games only"(Furnessly vs. MycroProcessor(2008-2009)), "Final Fantasy only"(Moogle vs. Mazz0Murder(2009)) or having each round correspond to a sequential letter of the alphabet with added sources and time limit (CorruptionSound's "ABC" Tennis Multi-Way (2011-2014))
• the amount of sources that can be added (in the early years, it was commonly suggested that added sources be capped at a maximum of three per round; in Kurkop vs. Metzgorrre(2010), the condition was that No sources were to be added)
• specific software to be used, such as WMM (dew vs. Gamebop(2012-2014), CorruptionSound vs. Massivezephyr14 vs. Gamebop vs. BSP66c vs. Metroid998(2010-2012))
• editing restrictions, such as "no visual distortion/ear rape"(NS2 vs. ChrisGendo(2009))
• a nonstandard match type, such as Wildcard (RabbitSnore vs. Crash2991(2008)), Multiplied Time(quax94 vs. MycroProcessor(2009)) or Panic Tennis (dew vs. Gamebop vs. LeSuperKoffee(2012))

Often, 6 rounds in total is the conventional amount of rounds made that make a normal match considered "complete". However, in certain circumstances, especially if the players enjoy working off of each other, the number of rounds can often get extended to 8 or more. TheChutley and vvaluigi began a match together with the intent of playing 100 rounds in total beginning in 2008, and have gotten as far as Round 75 in the present day, with a five year window of inactivity between 2011 and 2016.

In some cases, especially in tennis's early years, matches could be declared "complete" at an odd number, as well as one under the conventional amount of 6. This usually came about as a mutual agreement between the players involved that the match had reached a natural end, if not exactly a conventional one. Matches such as Crash2991 vs. strong414bad(2008) and AshcrementVII vs. UncleChuckTH(2012) were called complete at 5 rounds, and in another, much rarer instance, RabbitSnore vs. NS2(2009) was given "honorary completion" after only 3 rounds. Other matches like RabbitSnore vs. conradslater(2007) and Kurkop vs. LeSuperKoffee(2010) were declared complete at the unusual amount of 9 rounds. These circumstances usually only happen when the last even round of a match is either unable or unwilling to be made by the volleying side, but there is not a desire to consider the match "failed" for sentimental reasons, usually due to the players being close as friends or the quality of the match as it stands being considered too great for failure.

Additionally, matches can sometimes stall at an odd number with an even finishing round never being made and the match being considered neither completed nor failed due to a loss of communication. These include matches such as BMATF vs. Markie(2007, the second ever tennis match), NS2 vs. Markie(2012), dew vs. robochao1(2016) and SushieBoy vs. guysafari(2010), all matches that never received a Round 6.

Ultimately though, a match is traditionally considered "failed" when one or both players have lost the desire to continue a match and the agreed number of rounds is not reached, and every player in tennis comes to play at least one, and often at least a few failed matches throughout their tennis career. There is however no definitive time limit to how long a tennis match must take. Metroid998 vs. AshcrementVII notably took an entire 5 years to complete, lasting from 2011's Round 1 to 2016's Round 6. dew vs. verity larsen(TheRazorEdge) additionally took 4 years to complete, lasting from 2012 to 2016. Whether or not a match fails depends entirely on the players involved and their willingness to continue the match.

Etiquette is generally recommended when it comes to starting matches with people - like the game itself, communication is key. In the early days of tennis a direct challenge to a specific player would sometimes be cast without any prior planning to ultimately spotty success, and it was generally considered not the most popular way to start matches with people. Throughout Tennis's history, it has seen some players such as HerpyWhooves and autumnithink who were notorious for their habit of uploading serves to whoever they wanted as an opponant with no prior (or subsequent) communication whatsoever. While most of these serves were not volleyed, they on occasion were and did in fact blossom into full matches, such as autumnithink vs. CorruptionSound(2011) and HerpyWhooves vs. Gamebop(2011). It is still overall highly discouraged that one start matches with anyone this way however.

Doubles Tennis

Doubles Tennis is the practice of teams of two going at it. See here for more.

Triples Tennis

Tennis with three! See here for more information.

Multi-Ways

Larger matches with more than two people, but still in a repeating pattern. See here for more information.

Poop Chains

Poop Chains are usually endless ongoing matches with no specific order of players in which anyone who wants to volley the next round can do so. The first chain was started by BMATF in 2007 and ended after 51 Rounds, and the second chain was started by ShadowWario/FancySanta in 2008, which ended after 53 rounds. Every subsequent chain is still ongoing at the present time, including the 3rd Chain started by Architect1, the 4th Chain started by TheNeopreneJunebug, which is a specifically Pizza themed chain, the 5th chain started by Gamebop, unlike the other chains Gamebop's chain has no rules so you can feel free to edit anyone's video, and during 2014 the Snully Series is a Unofficial Chain that was started by Kyoobur9000, which beats most other poop chains with a total of 100 rounds which as of today is still ongoing.

There have also been a series of a unique kind of chain called a Pyramid Chain, of which there have been 3 of since 2008 and the 3rd chain is currently ongoing. In a pyramid chain every round is volleyed by two people up to a halfway point, at which every two rounds then becomes volleyed by one person, in which a rotation starting with a single video also ends a single video. Every group of volleying people to a previous round is divided by Tiers, which is represented by letters typically.

Example of layout(numbers marking player spots):

a___________1

b_____2__________3

c___4____5_____6_____7

d__8_9_10_11_12_13_14_15

e___16___17____18____19

f_____20__________21

g___________22

This can also be endless, with multiple rotations in this fashion occurring, starting with the single Round in the last Tier in the next.

Tennis Cafe and Cafe Staff

First Generation(2008)

Members: RabbitSnore, RAKninja, Crash2991, strong414bad, NS2, Nuthead, TheHappyFungus (and Emperor Ing).

One of the earliest prolific players of Youtube Poop Tennis was RabbitSnore, who was the lead admin of the Youchew forums alongside his real life friend Thereisnospoon303(often called TINS for short) in the era that immediately followed the reign of Conrad Slater. A general chat thread unique to the newly made tennis subforum, called The Poop Tennis Cafe, was opened in the forums (and also on the backup site, Planet Freedom) in January 2008. This thread was made to discuss matches past and present, set up future matches between people, including a roster listing people that they want to play or have already played that might including variations of rules, and to have "refreshments". It would in time garner a notable reputation of mainly being a spammy thread of tennis staff members and its regulars sharing inside jokes to each other, often in the form of various different images. After 4 months of managing the section on his own, and following the forum switch-over from its Vanilla layout, Rabbit employed the first version of a new mod staff unique to the tennis subforums on the evening of May 7th, 2008 to deal with tennis related threads such as moving threads, updating rosters, and hosting tourneys. The staff at this time was made up of 7 members, with Crash2991, NS2, TheHappyFungus, Nuthead, strong414bad, and RAKninja being the new additions, mainly for being the most active posters in the Cafe and thusly having the closest connections with Rabbit. In time, they would quickly become popularly known as the Tennis Fucks, a term coined by RAKninja and used frequently by him to describe his fellow staff.

It is also regarded that Youchew moderator/administrator Emperor Ing was always considered by the original staff as an "unofficial fuck", while never actually being on the staff itself due to him already being instated with moderator and later administrator powers, but having very in-depth involvement with the staff's activities in the early years to the point where he was considered just as essential. It is because of this that he is recognized as having served the staff in the past by retaining the official service medal and also has a round made in a special multi-way match reserved exclusively for staff members only.

Besides just having moderation powers, the Fucks have over time informally acquired a status and reputation of being "experts" at tennis, due to each member throughout its history having their own unique takes on the game, their own theories and their own perspectives on how different tennis matches play out, in addition to historically usually having some of the greatest passion for the sport out of all tennis players.

Second Generation(2008-2010) and Third Generation(2012-2014)

Members(Gen 2): GameBop, Moogle, MycroProcessor, DaftPunkYoshi, MrDrunkenFox, ChrisGendo, TheChutley

Members(Gen 3): AshcrementVII, trepmaws, CorruptionSound, TheFXexpert

The Fucks have since undergone many changes in its lineup of members, beginning as soon as 5 days later when NS2 would be promoted by majority vote of administration to a Moderator of the site. Gamebop would become the next addition to the Staff in July 2008 originally for the purpose of managing the 2nd Tennis Chain and being able to edit the original post created by ShadowWario/FancySanta, yet continued to retain the position until the forum closed, after a record 10 years and 2 months. Moogle would join next on November 18, 2008, around the same time that Nuthead would be revoked from the staff and banned from the forums. MycroProcessor would join by popular demand on February 27th, 2009, essentially acting as the fill-in for Nuthead, and TheHappyFungus would become a mod around this same time. DaftPunkYoshi would also be added to the Staff on June 25th, 2009, later becoming a moderator of the forum in order to bridge a social divide between the Tennis Staff and Moderation Staff in August 2011. NS2 would resign and return to being a moderator in April and October 2009 respectively, before resigning permenantly on August 6th, 2010 to return to being a full time Cafe Staff member, although activity wise would be very sparse. RAKninja would publically announce his retirement from the staff and forum on August 4th, 2010, the same day that MrDrunkenFox, then a long time moderator of the forums, would step down and upon personal request be added to the Cafe Staff. Chrisgendo and TheChutley would be jointly added to the staff in December 2010, and AshcrementVII and trepmaws would follow in January 2012 in order to assist Chrisgendo, who up to that point was essentially managing much of the tennis section on her own, during a period where much of the other members on staff had become inactive. Following this period, long time staff members Moogle, NS2, Crash2991 and strong414bad would all quietly retire their staff titles following Chrisgendo's public retirement announcement from staff and forum in September 2012. CorruptionSound would be added to fill the void left by Ashcrement's retirement on January 10th, 2014, with TheFXexpert later added on June 13th mainly to help the staff with the collab section.

Fourth Generation(2014-2018)

Members: Stuart K. Reilly, Metroid998, LaVieCestLol, Biodegradable

The proceeding day, a major staff change occurred on Youchew in which the Janitors(moderators assigned to very specific sections, in Youchew's case the "Poop Talk" section) and Tennis Café Staff were merged into one, thus creating the Café Staff, which gained equal control over the entire Youtube Poop section of the forums, a change which by complete anomaly would transition then current Janitor Stuart K. Reilly over to the Café Staff, although he would only maintain this position for 2 months and contribute very little. He would however later on develop a signifigant reacquaintance with the staff and tennis regulars, even going as far as to finally produce a series of Youtube Poop News episodes covering many aspects of YTP tennis in early 2015. In May 2015, MrDrunkenFox left the Tennis Staff and rejoined as a Moderator after a hiatus of 5 years, the longest gap of time in-between service of any moderator so far. On May 31st, 2016 TheChutley announced his retirement from the staff and was later replaced by Metroid998. Due to being short-handed by theFXexpert's long absence during this time, LaVie CestLol was also added to the staff. On April 7th, 2018, trepmaws would step down from his position and was replaced by Biodegradable.

Fifth Generation(2019-2024)

Members: mrdoognoog, VidTens443, dani_phantump, Zekii, system128, nm41, infinitysnapz, AngryLuigi23

With the Youchew forums about to close and the community set to split in two in August 2018, MycroProcessor, CorruptionSound, Biodegradable, Metroid998 and theFXexpert all agreed to migrate over to the more Youtube Poop-focused YTPMania forums, opened and run by Smonge, in order to build a new home for the Tennis Section. GameBop opted not to immediately retain their staff position, effectively stepping down for an indeterminate time with the closing of the forum on September 29th. The rest of the staff at the time also eventually quietly retired after a slow, inactive first year on YTPMania, at a time when many of the new generation coming into the tennis section were very curious about when the next tournament would happen. Eventually, mrdoognoog and VidTens443, two members who were around for the twilight years in tennis on Youchew, together with newer member Nubman41 and YTPMania admin Morshe started the first tournament on the new forum themselves, the Tennis League V, and managed to persuade dew to come out of retirement to participate and extend a guiding hand across the new generation of tennisers. With much of the old staff inactive, mrdoognoog, VidTens443 and dew all became promoted to the new wave of Café Staff on YTPMania on Oct 6 and Oct 22, 2019 respectively. The Youchew forums returned in a new iteration in 2020, and the staff migrated back to its old home, with Metroid998, VidTens443 and mrdoognoog as the active staff members and dew as one of the two admins and leaders of the new site, but still acting as a fuck within the tennis section as well, much in the same way as RabbitSnore and Ing previously. Zekii was knighted as the newest member of the staff on April 6, 2020. The new Youchew forums however did not last, suffering a managerial crisis that ultimately led to its shutting down in the middle of April 2020, moving everyone back to YTPMania except for dew, who was banned from the site for about a year, ultimately ending her tenure as an active staff member. Nubman41 and system128 were promoted to tennis staff on Febaruary 3, 2022, while mrdoognoog retired from active staff on October 1st of that year. infinitysnapz was promoted to staff on August 20, 2023, followed by AngryLuigi23 on July 5, 2024 following the departure of both Zekii and nm41.

The Cafe Today

The active staff as it stands today is made up of VidTens443, infinitysnapz, AngryLuigi23, and system128. On the Youchew archive, RabbitSnore remains displayed as a staff member in order to recognize the staff's roots of creation and his contributions to the tennis section overall during his active period on the forum.

The Poop Tennis Café as it stands today now exists on YTPMania, and, while still retaining some activity, reaches no where close to where the Tennis Cafes of old used to reach. The Café thread had 4 original iterations on the Youchew Forums: the first opening on January 28, 2008 and being locked on March 31, 2008 after 104 pages, the second opening on April 2, 2008 and closing on January 8, 2010 after 883 pages, the third opening on January 8, 2010 and closing on October 11, 2012 after 842 pages(with about 4 months of posts in early 2011 lost as a result of Youchew's infamous "Oz incident"), and the fourth and final iteration opening on October 13, 2012 and lasting until the closure of the YouChew Forums on September 29, 2018 after 494 pages. RabbitSnore upon briefly returning to the Youchew forums in January 2013 expressed his complete disbelief that the then current version of the thread continued to persist. The Café Thread that currently exists on YTPMania was first opened on August 21, 2018, and has currently seen 1977 posts (there are no pages in this version due to the unusual interface of the YTPMania forums). Skype and Discord versions of the Cafe have existed, which has at times seemed to subtract from the discussion of the original threads, but the Café thread proper remains with a reputation of being more relaxed, controlled, and easy to follow conversation-wise nature, being considered much more refreshing and comfortable. In the present day, much of the tennis community activity is now had over on the discord The Tennis Isles, which has in some cases kind of become a forum for tennis in its own right.

Achievements

As stated above, the first tennis match took place in 2007, between Conradslater and Misslaineous10.

The longest accepted tennis round is "Vore. Unbirth. Dinner." by MycroProcessor, at a whopping six hours. While there are rounds longer, these are usually not counted due to lack of content or effort.

The longest self-match is idk

The longest tennis match is Missadaxio, at over 11000 rounds and counting. It isn't likely to be passed any time soon, as the match plan to go on forever.

Not a single player has won more than one individual tennis tournament. However, if counting collaborative matches, GameBop has the most wins with three: GTT, TTT, and MVT. For other tournament-related achievements, see Tennis Tournaments#Achievements.